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Badge Grinds- Level Up

 
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2021 11:54 pm    Post subject: Badge Grinds- Level Up Reply with quote

Instead of instantly granting CP, I think a way to make badge grinds more interesting/less of a power spike is to make them require XP to "level up" past the max and gain additional CP. Each badge would unlock its CP bonus after earning an additional 1000 XP (or 1500 XP for 15 CP badges) after you've maxxed out- maybe a UI element could be added to show progress on which badge is currently "in-progress", which aren't, and which have been completed. The bonus to this is that it extends the "leveling up" experience further into the late game, allows you to slowly ramp up your power, but also doesn't instantly reward veteran players just because of what they did in previous breaths, though breath stats would still be important.
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PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2021 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really really like this. The exact numbers are debatable, but it's a really cool concept that hits multiple admirable design points in one shot:
* It answers (at least for a while) the question of what one does with post-maxout XP: spend it earning more levels, if badge conditions are met.
* It extends the progression longevity of some characters. How long is debatable, but we could keep ramping up the XP to level curve for these unlockable levels.
* It provides useful information. You can eyeball a level 22 character and a level 28 character and immediately discern a power difference between them, but 30 could mean a lot of things right now- potentially a gulf hundreds of CP wide. Knowing that that character is level 34 (for instance) gives you more immediately obvious information than fishing through their stats, doing the math, and finding that they have 120 extra CP of badges.
* It solves the issue of veterans getting a sudden huge power spike (potentially from long ago actions) all at once by making them go out and earn those post-cap levels gradually.
* It provides a technically feasible (since...I don't know how we'd do the currently proposed thing) means for the dev goal of diminishing returns in badge rewards. We could have early post-maxout levels require only a few badges and gradually ramp up the number of badges needed for later levels.
* It still provides CP for peoples' character progression. Note that for simplicity's sake post-maxout levels would probably be better to not keep increasing AP, HP and MP caps like pre-maxout levels.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Promote.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2021 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little idea to extend the concept:

Every level above 30 gives a character some amount of Badge Points, which can then be spent to "activate" one of character's Achievement Badges to receive its CP reward, similar to how the Skill purchase page works.

Exact numbers are of course up to balancing dance, but for simplicity it could be a 1:1 exchange, that is a 10 CP badge costing 10 BP and a 15 CP badge costing 15 BP.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2021 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B5 will have a system based on this concept, which is outlined here:

https://www.nexusclash.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=93088#93088
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